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		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=User:Herr_tim&amp;diff=5343</id>
		<title>User:Herr tim</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-02T19:08:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I&#039;m Tim and I&#039;m currently in contact with a few past members of Naked Raygun, Silver Abuse, and Toothpaste. It isn&#039;t too often, but when I get information from them I&#039;ll make a few contributions here and there to their pages.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=User:Herr_tim&amp;diff=5342</id>
		<title>User:Herr tim</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=User:Herr_tim&amp;diff=5342"/>
		<updated>2008-12-02T19:06:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I&#039;m Tim and I&#039;m currently in contact with a few past members of Naked Raygun, Silver Abuse, and Toothpaste. It isn&#039;t too often, but when I get information from them I&#039;ll make a few contributions here and there to the respective pages.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Jim_Colao&amp;diff=5341</id>
		<title>Jim Colao</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-02T18:57:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: /* Notes */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Jim Colao&#039;&#039;&#039; was the original drummer for [[Naked Raygun]] from [[1980]] to [[1984]].  He was a major influence on the early Raygun sound and wrote some of their most famous early tracks, such &lt;br /&gt;
as &#039;&#039;Libido&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Jammed with [[Santiago Durango]] in an un-named proto-Naked Raygun while at UIC in 1979.&lt;br /&gt;
* Was a member of [[Silver Abuse]], and later, [[Toothpaste]] in the early 1980&#039;s.   &lt;br /&gt;
* Is currently executive producer of Plug&#039;d Music Group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Drummers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Naked Raygun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Silver Abuse]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Al_Szopinski&amp;diff=5239</id>
		<title>Al Szopinski</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-05T23:58:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Al Szopinski was a guitarist of [[The Wayouts]] and [[Toothpaste]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Band Members]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Guitarists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:The_Wayouts]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Toothpaste]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Category:Silver_Abuse&amp;diff=5238</id>
		<title>Category:Silver Abuse</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-05T23:56:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Lots of people were involved with [[Silver Abuse]], and their impact in the punk community isn&#039;t well enough known.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Bob_Damrau&amp;diff=5237</id>
		<title>Bob Damrau</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-05T23:55:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bob Damrau&#039;&#039;&#039; was an original member of [[Silver Abuse]] during their first run in [[1977]].  He then went to [[The Wayouts]] and, after the Wayouts last show on December 31, 1980, he re-upped with Silver Abuse.  A couple of years later, he helped form [[Toothpaste]] with [[John Lundin]] and [[Al Szopinski]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bob contributes regularly to the [[ChicagoPunkPix]] message board. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Band Members]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Drummers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Silver Abuse]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Toothpaste]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Bob_Damrau&amp;diff=5236</id>
		<title>Bob Damrau</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-05T23:54:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bob Damrau&#039;&#039;&#039; was an original member of [[Silver Abuse]] during their first run in [[1977]].  He then went to [[The Wayouts]] and, after the Wayouts last show on December 31, 1980, he re-upped with Silver Abuse.  A couple of years later, he helped form [[Toothpaste]] with [[John Lundin]] and [[Al Szopinski]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bob contributes regularly to the [[ChicagoPunkPix]] message board. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Band Members]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Drummers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Silver Abuse]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=The_Wayouts!&amp;diff=5235</id>
		<title>The Wayouts!</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=The_Wayouts!&amp;diff=5235"/>
		<updated>2008-10-05T23:52:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[The Wayouts]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=The_Wayouts!&amp;diff=5234</id>
		<title>The Wayouts!</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-05T23:50:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[The Wayouts]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Al_Szopinski&amp;diff=5233</id>
		<title>Al Szopinski</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Al_Szopinski&amp;diff=5233"/>
		<updated>2008-10-05T23:48:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Al Szopinski was a guitarist of [[The Wayouts]] and [[Toothpaste]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=The_Wayouts&amp;diff=5232</id>
		<title>The Wayouts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=The_Wayouts&amp;diff=5232"/>
		<updated>2008-10-05T23:48:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: /* Members */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:WayoutsFinalShowFlyer.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Flyer from their final show, 12/31/1980 at [[Oz]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;The Way-outs!&#039;&#039;&#039; were a band from very early in the Chicago punk scene, created from most of the members of the original version of [[Silver Abuse]].  Formed June [[1980]], they played their final show on New Year&#039;s Eve [[1980]] at [[Oz]].  [[Jeff Pezzati]] had this to say about them - &amp;quot;a dysfunctional group of malcontents that sounded like freight train passing through a tunnel while blasting the Jetson&#039;s theme out of its smoke stacks&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;pure genius&amp;quot;.  No recordings of The Wayouts have ever been released, though their MySpace page (see below) typically has an online track or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After The Way-outs! disbanded, 4 of the 5 members formed the second version of Silver Abuse.  The Way-outs! will be performing at the December 29 reunion show at the Lucky Gator Loft with fellow punk pioneers [[Silver Abuse]] and [[Toothpaste]].  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bob Damrau]] - Drums, Bass&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Al Szopinski]] - Guitar, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paul Chabala]] - Guitar, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Camilo Gonzalez]] - Bass, Drums, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bill Meehan]] - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* After disbanding at the Oz gig, they reformed as [[Silver Abuse]]. &lt;br /&gt;
* They were named after a fictional band from The Flintstones&lt;br /&gt;
* Bob&#039;s stage name was Kate Smith&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notable Shows ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* June 21st, [[1980]] at [[222 S. Morgan Street]] - [[Naked Raygun]]&#039;s 1st show&lt;br /&gt;
* Summer/fall 1980 at Waves (lower level of Metro) opening for Strike Under and introduced by [[Santiago Durango]] (&amp;quot;For your edification - the Wayouts&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
* December 31st, 1980 at Oz - Farewell show with Naked Raygun, [[Strike Under]] and [[The Effigies]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Pezzati&#039;s liner notes on the [[Basement Screams]] reissue - most everything here. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== External Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.myspace.com/silverabusereunion Wayouts/SA/Toothpaste reunion Myspace page]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bands|Wayouts, The]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Silver Abuse]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:MySpace]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Al_Szopinski&amp;diff=5231</id>
		<title>Al Szopinski</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Al_Szopinski&amp;diff=5231"/>
		<updated>2008-10-05T23:46:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Al Szopinski was a guitarist of [[The Wayouts!]] and [[Toothpaste]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Silver_Abuse&amp;diff=5230</id>
		<title>Silver Abuse</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-05T23:44:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: /* The Wayouts! */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Silver abuse in cans.jpg|thumb|250px|right|Final Silver Abuse lineup in garbage cans, circa 1983]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Silver Abuse&#039;&#039;&#039; was one of the original punk bands in Chicago, forming in [[1977]].  There were various versions of Silver Abuse, but the original version starred lifetime member [[Bill Meehan]], along with [[Santiago Durango]] and [[Camilo Gonzalez]], early members of [[Naked Raygun]].  Silver Abuse broke up for good in [[1983]].  After the original version of Silver Abuse disbanded in the late 70s, most of the members of SA formed [[The Wayouts!]].  Even though The Wayouts! included many of the same members of Silver Abuse, their lazer-sharp sardonic and cartoonish one-minute pop missives varied so greatly from Silver Abuse&#039;s sloppy yet spot-on political and social dissections, that they are best not included in the greater Silver Abuse beastiary. Some of The Wayouts!&#039; members became Silver Abuse again after their last show on New Year&#039;s Eve, [[1980]].  There was also a later spin-off group called [[Burden of Friendship]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sadly, [[Jaqui Disler]] passed away in [[2004]] after a long battle with cancer.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Origins ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Santiago Durango&#039;s take ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
According to a Durango [http://www.dangpow.com/~landed/bigblack/BBFE9.htm interview in Forced Exposure], the original Silver Abuse was a bunch of like-minded high school (Gordon Tech) punk fans who couldn&#039;t play their instruments and liked to get drunk on wine and do drugs.  They were a five piece and only made it through one song at their very first gig.  Opening up at a loft party thrown by [[Tutu and the Pirates]], they started off with a particularly vulgar ditty.  That was enough for the crowd...  they played one more gig before ending it after Durango left the band.  This version of SA never recorded anything except some &amp;quot;cheesy cassettes&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Bob Damrau&#039;s take ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;There were two groups of musicians that more or less merged at some point to form what would become Silver Abuse. Camilo is the missing link in bringing some members of these two groups together.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Group 1 consisted of Santiago Durango and [[Bob Galardo]] (they were both guitarists as well as neighbors on roscoe street).  Camilo had a number of classes with santiago at Gordon Technical High School, where there friendship began.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Group 2 consisted of Bill Meehan, Dennis Sosniak, Camilo, and yours truly.  We all got to know Santiago through his acquaintance with gonz.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Galardo was never a member of Silver Abuse.  He and Sant did a lot of jamming (which i participated in occasionally).  Ultimately, santiago replaced Dennis...&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== First show confusion ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is also reported that the first SA was at [[La Mere Vipere]] in Spring of [[1978]]. This report is false according to Maxxwell, who was a local scenester of the era:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The misunderstanding probably comes from the coverage in [[Gabba Gabba Gazzette]] #8, which has photos of the event (which was a benefit for the GGG), and a funny letter of apology for Silver Abuse&#039;s performance from Boppin Billy ([[Billy Meehan]]), but does not name a venue, possibly because the venue was illegal. Even though the Gabba Gabba Gazette  was not officially affilliated with LaMere at that time, it would have been easy for someone who read the zine, but was not at the event to just assume it happened at LaMere.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Maxxwell explained that LaMere was not a venue for live music. Furthermore, Maxxwell states: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Since the purpose of live music from the owner&#039;s point of view is to attract customers rather than send them screaming out the door hurling beer glasses as they go, it seems unlikely that Noe, cool guy though he was, would have ever selected the first edition of Silver Abuse as an evening&#039;s entertainment.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Maxxwell says his recollection of the first SA show matches Santiago&#039;s:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The concert was held at a rented or possibly surreptitously borrowed industrial space temporarily named &amp;quot;Tutu&#039;s Placenta.&amp;quot; Our anti-heroes stumbled uncertainly to the performance area, some dressed in combat helmets. In my memory they were all wearing Nazi gear and tinfoil masks. However a photo printed in the Gabba Gabba Gazette #8 (Summer 78) shows only the guitarist wearing a Reynolds Wrap facemask (Santiago perhaps trying vainly to conceal his identity) w/German-looking helmet  and another member with a combat helmet of unidentifiable origin. Billy is wearing a jean jacket and t-shirt. Only three of the members were pictured. It still seems to me there was more than one tinfoil mask...but I may have been in only slightly better shape than the band. There was a bit of random guitar skronk, and then  the band launched into &amp;quot;Jews Must Die&amp;quot;. After what seemed an eternity but was probably a minute and a half the band departed the stage, followed by catcalls and possibly a few projectiles.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
In a letter to the editor, also printed in GGG number 8, Billy apologizes for the band&#039;s performance, admitting that the band &amp;quot;sucked dog diarrhea through a straw&amp;quot;. He attributes the band&#039;s performance to lack of practice and being too fucked up to play. With uncharacteristic understatement he notes &amp;quot;we never shoulda opened with &amp;quot;Jews Must Die&amp;quot; He also said he was amused by a David Witz review of the show in The Reader. (David Witz,a very mainstream critic, had an ongoing feud with Mary Alice and LaMere).He said the band would continue to perform but without the neo-fascist shtick, which was &amp;quot;just an attempt at a cheap laugh&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Lineups ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Original Lineup ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Billy Meehan]] - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Santiago Durango]] / [[Dennis Sosniak]] - Guitar&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Camilo Gonzalez]] - Bass&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bob Damrau]] - Drums&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== The Wayouts! ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Billy Meehan]] - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paul Chabala]] - Guitar, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Al Szopinski]] - Guitar, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Camilo Gonzalez]] - Bass&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bob Damrau]] - Drums&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Silver Abuse II ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Billy Meehan - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* Paul Chabala - Guitar, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* Camilo Gonzalez - Bass&lt;br /&gt;
* Bob Damrau - Drums&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Silver Abuse III ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Viv (Marla) - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jaqui Disler]] - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* Paul Chabala - Guitar&lt;br /&gt;
* Billy Meehan - Bass&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dave Purdie]] - Keyboards&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jim Colao]] - Drums&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Silver Abuse IV  ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Billy Meehan - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liz Cox]] -  Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* Camilo Gonzalez - Bass&lt;br /&gt;
* Dave Purdie - Keyboards&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Donnie Krattner]] - Sax&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Robert Porche&#039;]] - Drums&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Releases ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Busted at Oz]] Compilation - [[Autumn Records]], [[1981]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-Hot Dog&lt;br /&gt;
** Pink Port Now&lt;br /&gt;
** Bomb Shelter (Later covered by Naked Raygun)&lt;br /&gt;
** Jigaboo Jump&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:silverabuse_fallfromgrace.jpg|right|100px]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Fall From Grace&#039;&#039; 7&amp;quot; - [[Schwa Records]], [[1982]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Jumpin&#039; Thru&lt;br /&gt;
**Rats Tied To Trees&lt;br /&gt;
**Cuban Homo Farm&lt;br /&gt;
**Plastic Rows&lt;br /&gt;
**Rats Reprise&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* They did a cover of Skrewdriver&#039;s Antisocial, calling it Anti Hot Dog&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Cuban Homo Farm&#039;&#039; was likely a dig at Camilo Gonzales, shortly after he left to join [[Naked Raygun]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Pink port wine was the drink of choice for the members&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Shows ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Spring 1978 at Tutu&#039;s Placenta - first show, played one song&lt;br /&gt;
* February 23, 1981 at [[O&#039;Banion&#039;s]] - with [[Naked Raygun]]&lt;br /&gt;
* October 24, 1981 at [[Cubby Bear]] - with [[Naked Raygun]]&lt;br /&gt;
* March 3, [[1982]] at [[Misfits]] - with [[Trial by Fire]]&lt;br /&gt;
* January 23, 1982 at [[Space Place]] &lt;br /&gt;
* April 27, [[1983]] at [[Smart Bar]]&lt;br /&gt;
* December 29, 2007 at Lucky Gator Loft&lt;br /&gt;
* September 6, [[2008]] at Lucky Gator Loft&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== External Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://profile.myspace.com/silverabuse Silver Abuse myspace page]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/03/chicago_nowave_.html Chicago No-Wave part I - Silver Abuse]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://chicagopunkpix.com/forum/index.php?topic=58.0 CPP thread on Silver Abuse]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://chicagopunkpix.com/forum/index.php?topic=1099.0 CPP thread on Silver Abuse &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; Burden of Friendship connection]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== YouTube Clips ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Live, early 1980&#039;s in Chicago&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92dqAkiMMGM Fine and Private Place (from Chicago Punk Rock 1980&#039;s DVD)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bands]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Silver Abuse]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:1970s]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:YouTube]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Toothpaste&amp;diff=5229</id>
		<title>Toothpaste</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-05T23:43:48Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:ToothpasteMatter.jpg|right|250px|thumb|From Left-to-Right: Jon, Bob, Al]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Toothpaste&#039;&#039;&#039; is an early 80s Chicago punk band that formed out of former members of [[Naked Raygun]] and [[The Wayouts]]. They released a 12&amp;quot; in [[1983]] recorded at 2120 S. Michigan Ave. (formerly Chess Records) and played around town until about [[1985]], with a number of lineup changes. Their record received favorable reviews and was recommended by [[Steve Albini]], among others. Al Szopinski left the band for two years and former Naked Raygun members [[Camilo Gonzalez]] and [[Jim Colao]] took up the slack. Toothpaste took a more pop punk approach to the music while Naked Raygun, [[Strike Under]] and the [[Effigies]] pushed the more hardcore &amp;quot;Chicago Sound&amp;quot;. Naked Raygun and [[Big Black]] member [[Santiago Durango]] wrote &amp;quot;Oh Yeah Come On&amp;quot; and Naked Raygun guitarist [[John Haggerty]] played sax on the studio recording of &amp;quot;Oh Yeah Come On&amp;quot;. Toothpaste did a lot of studio recording with [[Iain Burgess]] and may release a compilation CD with fellow early Chicago punk bands [[Silver Abuse]] and the Way-Outs! in conjunction with an upcoming reunion show on December 29, 2007, at the Lucky Gator Loft. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John Lundin]] (ultra) - Guitar, Keyboards,&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bob Damrau]] (aqua) - Drums, Guitar, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Al Szopinski]] (pepso) - Guitar, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Camilo Gonzalez]] - Bass, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jim Colao]] - Vocals, Drums, Percussion&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paul Chabala]] - Sax&lt;br /&gt;
* Lucy Geever-Conroy - Violin&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Releases - click song to listen ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Toothpaste EP&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;  ([[Schwa]], 1983)&lt;br /&gt;
** Recorded November, [[1982]] at 2120 S. Michigan Ave. (formerly Chess Records) &lt;br /&gt;
# [http://punkdatabase.com/sounds/Toothpaste/Toothpaste-Palestine.mp3 Palestine]&lt;br /&gt;
# [http://punkdatabase.com/sounds/Toothpaste/Toothpaste-HoudinisMagicSecret.mp3 Houdini&#039;s Magic Secret]&lt;br /&gt;
# [http://punkdatabase.com/sounds/Toothpaste/Toothpaste-AmerikanBeauties.mp3 Amerikan Beauties]&lt;br /&gt;
# [http://punkdatabase.com/sounds/Toothpaste/Toothpaste-SexBolts.mp3 Sex Bolts]&lt;br /&gt;
# [http://punkdatabase.com/sounds/Toothpaste/Toothpaste-SpyGuy.mp3 Spy Guy]&lt;br /&gt;
# [http://punkdatabase.com/sounds/Toothpaste/Toothpaste-SkinheadsAreOK.mp3 Skinheads Are OK]&lt;br /&gt;
# [http://punkdatabase.com/sounds/Toothpaste/Toothpaste-PeopleAreFunny.mp3 People Are Funny]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Record Covers ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ToothpasteFront.jpg|thumb|left|150px|EP Front Cover]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ToothpasteBack.jpg|thumb|left|155px|EP Back Cover]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br style=&amp;quot;clear: left&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notable Shows ==&lt;br /&gt;
* First show (1981) at communist art gallery across Damen Avenue from the Busy Bee diner. Opening act was a performance artist who beat a dead rat with a coffee can. (we were upstaged big time.)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[West End]], with Circle Jerks, c. 1982&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Audio Disclaimer ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The songs linked here have all rights reserved by Al, Bob and Jon.  Bob has given permission to allow downloads and listening, &amp;quot;just don&#039;t sample anything for some rap crap&amp;quot; or use them in your own commercial product.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== External Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.dementlieu.com/~obik/arc/other/toothpaste_matter5.txt Matter 5 zine interview with Toothpaste]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== YouTube Clips ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Live, early 1980&#039;s in Chicago&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfRVt_Sc3eY Count Chocula (from Chicago Punk Rock 1980&#039;s DVD)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bands]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Naked Raygun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Audio]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:YouTube]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Pat_Byrne&amp;diff=5228</id>
		<title>Pat Byrne</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-04T22:46:21Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pat Byrne&#039;&#039;&#039; was a drummer who played on [[Big Black]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;Bulldozer EP&#039;&#039; and was also an original member of [[Urge Overkill]]. Prior to this, Pat played in the bands [[Roadrunner]] and [[Little King]] while living in Carbondale. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Band Members]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Big Black]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Drummers]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Pat_Byrne&amp;diff=5227</id>
		<title>Pat Byrne</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-04T22:42:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pat Byrne&#039;&#039;&#039; was a drummer who played on [[Big Black]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;Bulldozer EP&#039;&#039; and was also an original member of [[Urge Overkill]]. Prior to this, Pat played in the bands [[Roadrunner]] and [[Little King]] after moving to Chicago from Carbondale.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Band Members]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Big Black]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Drummers]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Jim_Colao&amp;diff=5226</id>
		<title>Jim Colao</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-04T22:28:34Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Jim Colao&#039;&#039;&#039; was the original drummer for [[Naked Raygun]] from [[1980]] to [[1984]].  He was a major influence on the early Raygun sound and wrote some of their most famous early tracks, such &lt;br /&gt;
as &#039;&#039;Libido&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Born October 31, 1957 (?)&lt;br /&gt;
* Jammed with [[Santiago Durango]] in an un-named proto-Naked Raygun while at UIC in 1979.&lt;br /&gt;
* Was a member of [[Silver Abuse]], and later, [[Toothpaste]] in the early 1980&#039;s.   &lt;br /&gt;
* Is currently executive producer of Plug&#039;d Music Group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Drummers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Naked Raygun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Silver Abuse]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://punkdatabase.com/w/index.php?title=Silver_Abuse&amp;diff=5225</id>
		<title>Silver Abuse</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-04T22:26:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Herr tim: /* Releases */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Silver abuse in cans.jpg|thumb|250px|right|Final Silver Abuse lineup in garbage cans, circa 1983]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Silver Abuse&#039;&#039;&#039; was one of the original punk bands in Chicago, forming in [[1977]].  There were various versions of Silver Abuse, but the original version starred lifetime member [[Bill Meehan]], along with [[Santiago Durango]] and [[Camilo Gonzalez]], early members of [[Naked Raygun]].  Silver Abuse broke up for good in [[1983]].  After the original version of Silver Abuse disbanded in the late 70s, most of the members of SA formed [[The Wayouts!]].  Even though The Wayouts! included many of the same members of Silver Abuse, their lazer-sharp sardonic and cartoonish one-minute pop missives varied so greatly from Silver Abuse&#039;s sloppy yet spot-on political and social dissections, that they are best not included in the greater Silver Abuse beastiary. Some of The Wayouts!&#039; members became Silver Abuse again after their last show on New Year&#039;s Eve, [[1980]].  There was also a later spin-off group called [[Burden of Friendship]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sadly, [[Jaqui Disler]] passed away in [[2004]] after a long battle with cancer.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Origins ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Santiago Durango&#039;s take ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
According to a Durango [http://www.dangpow.com/~landed/bigblack/BBFE9.htm interview in Forced Exposure], the original Silver Abuse was a bunch of like-minded high school (Gordon Tech) punk fans who couldn&#039;t play their instruments and liked to get drunk on wine and do drugs.  They were a five piece and only made it through one song at their very first gig.  Opening up at a loft party thrown by [[Tutu and the Pirates]], they started off with a particularly vulgar ditty.  That was enough for the crowd...  they played one more gig before ending it after Durango left the band.  This version of SA never recorded anything except some &amp;quot;cheesy cassettes&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Bob Damrau&#039;s take ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;There were two groups of musicians that more or less merged at some point to form what would become Silver Abuse. Camilo is the missing link in bringing some members of these two groups together.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Group 1 consisted of Santiago Durango and [[Bob Galardo]] (they were both guitarists as well as neighbors on roscoe street).  Camilo had a number of classes with santiago at Gordon Technical High School, where there friendship began.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Group 2 consisted of Bill Meehan, Dennis Sosniak, Camilo, and yours truly.  We all got to know Santiago through his acquaintance with gonz.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Galardo was never a member of Silver Abuse.  He and Sant did a lot of jamming (which i participated in occasionally).  Ultimately, santiago replaced Dennis...&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== First show confusion ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is also reported that the first SA was at [[La Mere Vipere]] in Spring of [[1978]]. This report is false according to Maxxwell, who was a local scenester of the era:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The misunderstanding probably comes from the coverage in [[Gabba Gabba Gazzette]] #8, which has photos of the event (which was a benefit for the GGG), and a funny letter of apology for Silver Abuse&#039;s performance from Boppin Billy ([[Billy Meehan]]), but does not name a venue, possibly because the venue was illegal. Even though the Gabba Gabba Gazette  was not officially affilliated with LaMere at that time, it would have been easy for someone who read the zine, but was not at the event to just assume it happened at LaMere.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Maxxwell explained that LaMere was not a venue for live music. Furthermore, Maxxwell states: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Since the purpose of live music from the owner&#039;s point of view is to attract customers rather than send them screaming out the door hurling beer glasses as they go, it seems unlikely that Noe, cool guy though he was, would have ever selected the first edition of Silver Abuse as an evening&#039;s entertainment.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Maxxwell says his recollection of the first SA show matches Santiago&#039;s:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The concert was held at a rented or possibly surreptitously borrowed industrial space temporarily named &amp;quot;Tutu&#039;s Placenta.&amp;quot; Our anti-heroes stumbled uncertainly to the performance area, some dressed in combat helmets. In my memory they were all wearing Nazi gear and tinfoil masks. However a photo printed in the Gabba Gabba Gazette #8 (Summer 78) shows only the guitarist wearing a Reynolds Wrap facemask (Santiago perhaps trying vainly to conceal his identity) w/German-looking helmet  and another member with a combat helmet of unidentifiable origin. Billy is wearing a jean jacket and t-shirt. Only three of the members were pictured. It still seems to me there was more than one tinfoil mask...but I may have been in only slightly better shape than the band. There was a bit of random guitar skronk, and then  the band launched into &amp;quot;Jews Must Die&amp;quot;. After what seemed an eternity but was probably a minute and a half the band departed the stage, followed by catcalls and possibly a few projectiles.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
In a letter to the editor, also printed in GGG number 8, Billy apologizes for the band&#039;s performance, admitting that the band &amp;quot;sucked dog diarrhea through a straw&amp;quot;. He attributes the band&#039;s performance to lack of practice and being too fucked up to play. With uncharacteristic understatement he notes &amp;quot;we never shoulda opened with &amp;quot;Jews Must Die&amp;quot; He also said he was amused by a David Witz review of the show in The Reader. (David Witz,a very mainstream critic, had an ongoing feud with Mary Alice and LaMere).He said the band would continue to perform but without the neo-fascist shtick, which was &amp;quot;just an attempt at a cheap laugh&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Lineups ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Original Lineup ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Billy Meehan]] - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Santiago Durango]] / [[Dennis Sosniak]] - Guitar&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Camilo Gonzalez]] - Bass&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bob Damrau]] - Drums&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== The Wayouts! ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Billy Meehan - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paul Chabala]] - Guitar, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* Al Szopinski - Guitar, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* Camilo Gonzalez - Bass&lt;br /&gt;
* Bob Damrau - Drums&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Silver Abuse II ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Billy Meehan - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* Paul Chabala - Guitar, Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* Camilo Gonzalez - Bass&lt;br /&gt;
* Bob Damrau - Drums&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Silver Abuse III ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Viv (Marla) - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jaqui Disler]] - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* Paul Chabala - Guitar&lt;br /&gt;
* Billy Meehan - Bass&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dave Purdie]] - Keyboards&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jim Colao]] - Drums&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Silver Abuse IV  ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Billy Meehan - Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liz Cox]] -  Vocals&lt;br /&gt;
* Camilo Gonzalez - Bass&lt;br /&gt;
* Dave Purdie - Keyboards&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Donnie Krattner]] - Sax&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Robert Porche&#039;]] - Drums&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Releases ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Busted at Oz]] Compilation - [[Autumn Records]], [[1981]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-Hot Dog&lt;br /&gt;
** Pink Port Now&lt;br /&gt;
** Bomb Shelter (Later covered by Naked Raygun)&lt;br /&gt;
** Jigaboo Jump&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:silverabuse_fallfromgrace.jpg|right|100px]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Fall From Grace&#039;&#039; 7&amp;quot; - [[Schwa Records]], [[1982]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Jumpin&#039; Thru&lt;br /&gt;
**Rats Tied To Trees&lt;br /&gt;
**Cuban Homo Farm&lt;br /&gt;
**Plastic Rows&lt;br /&gt;
**Rats Reprise&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* They did a cover of Skrewdriver&#039;s Antisocial, calling it Anti Hot Dog&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Cuban Homo Farm&#039;&#039; was likely a dig at Camilo Gonzales, shortly after he left to join [[Naked Raygun]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Pink port wine was the drink of choice for the members&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Shows ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Spring 1978 at Tutu&#039;s Placenta - first show, played one song&lt;br /&gt;
* February 23, 1981 at [[O&#039;Banion&#039;s]] - with [[Naked Raygun]]&lt;br /&gt;
* October 24, 1981 at [[Cubby Bear]] - with [[Naked Raygun]]&lt;br /&gt;
* March 3, [[1982]] at [[Misfits]] - with [[Trial by Fire]]&lt;br /&gt;
* January 23, 1982 at [[Space Place]] &lt;br /&gt;
* April 27, [[1983]] at [[Smart Bar]]&lt;br /&gt;
* December 29, 2007 at Lucky Gator Loft&lt;br /&gt;
* September 6, [[2008]] at Lucky Gator Loft&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== External Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://profile.myspace.com/silverabuse Silver Abuse myspace page]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/03/chicago_nowave_.html Chicago No-Wave part I - Silver Abuse]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://chicagopunkpix.com/forum/index.php?topic=58.0 CPP thread on Silver Abuse]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://chicagopunkpix.com/forum/index.php?topic=1099.0 CPP thread on Silver Abuse &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; Burden of Friendship connection]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== YouTube Clips ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Live, early 1980&#039;s in Chicago&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92dqAkiMMGM Fine and Private Place (from Chicago Punk Rock 1980&#039;s DVD)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bands]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Silver Abuse]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:1970s]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:YouTube]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Herr tim</name></author>
	</entry>
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